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Plans the datagram tracks epic in m1. Every track becomes either a datagram track or a stream track, and lite-07 freezes with that split rather than with datagrams as single-frame groups.

Decisions (maintainer, 2026-11-01, /quest-plan)

  1. Goal: a track is datagrams or streams, fixed at creation. A datagram track:

    • is subscribed through its own request, not SUBSCRIBE
    • carries a sequence number and a timestamp, with no group
    • takes no bounded ranges
    • is never cached, stored, or returned by FETCH
    • maps to group ID plus object ID 0 on moq-transport

    This reverses the subscribe-ranges decision of 2026-10-20 that any single-frame group may go as a datagram.

    • ✅ Yes, as stated
    • Keep the timestamp out
  2. What moq-archive does with a datagram track:

    • ✅ Skip datagram tracks
    • Store them as streams
    • Make an exception so the archive keeps them
  3. Which wire version gets the change:

    • ✅ lite-07, which isn't finalized yet
    • lite-08
  4. How a subscriber learns a track's kind:

    • TRACK_INFO declares it
    • ✅ The application knows
  5. Model API shape:

    • ✅ Separate types
    • A flag on Track
  6. When a moq-transport peer mixes datagrams and streams on one track:

    • ✅ Keep the requested kind and drop the other kind
    • Convert between them
  7. What the datagram request carries:

    • ✅ Priority only, live from now
    • Priority and max delay
  8. Names:

    • One kind per name
    • ✅ Separate namespaces for datagram and stream tracks
  9. Milestone:

    • ✅ m1, required by Finalize moq-lite-07
    • m2

One choice was made without asking: the datagram request's answer carries timescale and compression the way TRACK_INFO does. The Rust child confirms or changes this and records why.

The datagrams also get an exemption from lite-07 by start. That quest made every datagram a time, but under decision 1 datagrams keep their own sequence.

Quests

New epic quest/m1/datagram-tracks/. Its README owns the Rust-JS interop test and the doc/concept/moq-lite.md rewrite. Children:

  • [L] Rust: model types, lite-07 request and body, draft, relay, archive
  • [M] JS
  • [S] moq-transport mapping, Rust and JS
  • [M] bindings

Edited quests:

  • subscribe-ranges/README.md: the 2026-10-20 datagram rules are superseded
  • subscribe-ranges/start-bookkeeping.md: no datagram grace on lite-07
  • subscribe-ranges/lite.md: datagrams take no ranges, linked to the epic
  • subscribe-ranges/js.md
  • subscription-delay.md: the datagram request takes no Delay
  • time-addressing/lite07.md and time-addressing/model.md: datagrams keep a sequence
  • lite07-finalize.md: requires the epic
  • m1/README.md: adds the epic at its rank
  • m2/net-wrap/ (README, traits, e2ee) and m2/lite-tail-drop-count.md: the traits mirror the separate datagram types, and datagram holes matter only on lite-05/06

The archive edit went away: the Broadcast archives epic finished on main, and the Rust child already owns moq-archive dropping its datagram form.

Merge with main (2026-11-02)

Merged origin/main after moq-dev/moq#7665 settled time addressing. Checked against time-addressing/model.md and lite07.md there; nothing in this plan contradicts them:

  • Every write takes a timestamp: a datagram already carries a timestamp, and lite07.md now says FRAME and datagrams always carry one.
  • Legacy group IDs pass through verbatim: a moq-transport or lite-01..06 datagram's group ID maps to the datagram track's sequence as is, and back out.
  • Scale-less tracks keep Timescale 0: a scale-less stream frame's timestamp is its group's key, but a datagram has no group. That case is open, so rust.md now asks the Rust child to decide a scale-less datagram's timestamp and record why, as it already does for the request's timescale and compression.
  • model.md and lite07.md on main still listed datagrams as addressed by start. That text dates from 2026-10-25, and quest: import #7573, #7579, #7646 and settle time-addressing's timestamps #7665 didn't revisit it, so this plan's 2026-11-01 exemption still applies.

Coordination

  • moq-dev/moq#7487 and moq-dev/moq#7545 have merged. subscribe-ranges/lite.md keeps main's explicit-end design and the SUBSCRIBE_FINISH rename, and its datagram bullet now links the epic.

Review

Codex gpt-6.1-sol, medium effort, via quest review --base origin/main, round 1 on head 0e681a5: no findings. quest check --base origin/main passes (557 documents).

Online review findings:

  • pullfrog, moq-ffi API direction in rust.md: fixed in d8e7d60.
  • pullfrog, datagram request versus Delay: fixed in d8e7d60 (subscription-delay.md exempts it).
  • pullfrog, m2 net-wrap and lite-tail-drop-count still assumed track-level datagrams: fixed in 0e681a5.
  • CodeRabbit, archive Goal: fixed in d8e7d60. The file has since been deleted on main.
  • CodeRabbit, lite-01..06 same-name mapping: fixed in d8e7d60.
  • CodeRabbit, start-bookkeeping wording: fixed in d8e7d60.

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A track is datagrams or streams, fixed at creation. A datagram track has
its own lite-07 request (priority only), a sequence and timestamp with no
group, no ranges, no cache or FETCH, and maps to object ID 0 on
moq-transport. Rewrites the datagram rules in subscribe-ranges,
start-bookkeeping, time-addressing, and archive to match, and makes
lite07-finalize require the epic.

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No actionable bugs found in this planning change. Separate live-only datagram types are a sound simplification over adding more datagram exceptions to range completion, caching, and FETCH. The Rust/JS, bindings, archive, and lite-07 finalization work has explicit ownership, including direct and relayed cross-language coverage.

Verification: static inspection of the changed plans and relevant existing datagram model/codec documentation only. Tests were not run; the planned wire and legacy mappings are not implemented or independently verified by this review.

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ℹ️ No critical issues, a few consistency gaps.

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  • New epic and four children: quest/m1/datagram-tracks/ fixes a track as datagrams or streams, adds the lite-07 datagram request/body, and splits the work across Rust, JS, moq-transport, and bindings.
  • Reversal of the 2026-10-20 mixing rule: subscribe-ranges, time-addressing, and archive are edited so datagrams leave ranges, stream tracks, and the archive.
  • Legacy and moq-transport mapping: lite-01..06 keep group datagrams mapped onto the new types; moq-transport maps a datagram track to SUBSCRIBE and OBJECT_DATAGRAM object 0, keeping the requested kind.
  • Gate and index: lite07-finalize.md requires the epic and quest/m1/README.md indexes it.

ℹ️ m2 plans still assume datagrams ride on stream tracks

quest/m2/net-wrap/ still builds its traits around append_datagram, insert_datagram, and recv_datagram on the track producer/consumer, and quest/m2/lite-tail-drop-count.md still plans to "Account for holes left by lost datagrams" from lite-05 on. This epic removes those track-level methods and makes lite-07 stream tracks hole-free, so both would be implemented against a model that no longer exists. They are m2, so this does not block the plan; a ## Related link from the epic plus the scoping edit keeps them aligned.

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# Downstream quests stale after the datagram split

## Affected sites
- `quest/m2/net-wrap/README.md:8,36-39`: track traits include `append_datagram`, `insert_datagram`, and `recv_datagram`
- `quest/m2/net-wrap/traits.md:6,40`: traits "datagrams included"; `ordered` keeps "the same group, datagram, and control surface"
- `quest/m2/net-wrap/e2ee.md:23`: the same three datagram methods on the wrapper surface
- `quest/m2/lite-tail-drop-count.md:12`: datagram-hole accounting applies only to lite-05/06 after this split

## Required outcome
- net-wrap's plans name the separate datagram producer/consumer types, or defer their shape to this epic.
- lite-tail-drop-count scopes the datagram-hole bullet to lite-05/06.
- The epic cross-links both so a later implementer finds the change.

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The PR adds planning documents that define datagrams as a separate track kind with their own sequence and dedicated subscription behavior. The documents describe lite-07 protocol mappings, planned Rust, JavaScript, and bindings work, and compatibility scope. Related archive, subscription-range, bookkeeping, and time-addressing plans are updated to distinguish datagram tracks from stream tracks.

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Resolve the legacy interoperability rule and align the archive and bookkeeping instructions before implementation proceeds; the plans currently give conflicting or incomplete directions.

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Review comments at @quest/m1/archive/README.md:
- Line 50: Update the Goal in the archive plan to limit storage to every stream
track or explicitly exclude datagram tracks, keeping it consistent with the
datagram exclusion described in the plan.

Review comments at @quest/m1/datagram-tracks/rust.md:
- Around line 38-42: Clarify the lite-01..06 compatibility behavior for
same-name stream and datagram tracks: specify whether datagram-track subscribers
filter out group streams and stream-track subscribers filter out group
datagrams. If the adapter cannot distinguish the two, state that same-name
coexistence is unsupported on this path; retain the existing inbound and
outbound mapping rules.

Review comments at @quest/m1/subscribe-ranges/start-bookkeeping.md:
- Around line 28-31: Rewrite the lite-07 invariant to describe owed ranges as
covered by delivered stream groups or a DROP, removing the obsolete claim that
every sequence is accounted for. Keep the subscriber’s end condition about
owed-range coverage and no active stream.

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No new actionable bugs found in the update since 5cc0154. The legacy mapping now explicitly filters by requested kind and documents stream precedence for same-name legacy egress, resolving the ambiguity raised in the independent review. The Delay exemption and staged FFI migration are also explicit. Keeping this compatibility policy at the adapter boundary preserves the simpler separate-type model.

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✅ No new issues found.

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Since the prior pullfrog review (5cc01545a), commit d8e7d60c59 closed the open feedback and tightened the plan:

  • Delay exemption recorded: subscription-delay.md now states a datagram track's request carries priority only and takes no Delay, and the epic links that exemption from its "own request" decision.
  • Legacy lite-01..06 mapping rewritten: rust.md now maps one old-version subscription carrying both group streams and datagrams by the requested kind, with stream-track precedence for egress and the datagram track used only when no stream track shares the name.
  • moq-ffi migration staged: rust.md keeps the public append_datagram/recv_datagram surface unchanged this quest (backed internally by the new types), leaving the separate types to the bindings quest.
  • Archive goal scoped: archive/README.md now stores every stream track and notes datagram tracks are never stored.
  • Lite-07 invariant reworded: start-bookkeeping.md describes owed ranges as covered by delivered stream groups or a DROP.

Both prior inline threads are resolved and verified in-tree.

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kixelated and others added 2 commits November 2, 2026 22:39
Resolve conflicts with main's time-addressing rules (#7665), the finished
archive epic, and subscribe-ranges' explicit ends. Datagrams keep their own
sequence; the Rust child settles a scale-less datagram's timestamp.

Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 5.5 <noreply@anthropic.com>
Pullfrog's review found net-wrap and lite-tail-drop-count still planning
around track-level datagram methods and lite-07 datagram holes.

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Fixed in 0e681a5, for pullfrog's top-level finding that m2 plans still assumed datagrams on stream tracks:

  • quest/m2/net-wrap/README.md and traits.md: the traits mirror the separate datagram producer and consumer types, not append_datagram, insert_datagram, and recv_datagram on stream tracks.
  • quest/m2/net-wrap/e2ee.md: the wrapper matches those datagram types.
  • quest/m2/lite-tail-drop-count.md: datagram holes are scoped to lite-05/06.
  • The epic's ## Related links both quests.

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No new actionable issues found. Accounting for main's time-addressing and archive changes, the plan preserves datagram sequencing and calls out the unresolved scale-less timestamp while updating wrapper and legacy-tail plans for the split.

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✅ No new issues found.

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Since the prior pullfrog review (d8e7d60c59), commit 0e681a577 scoped the m2 plans to the datagram-track split and a merge brought main forward:

  • m2 datagram plans scoped: net-wrap/README.md, net-wrap/traits.md, and net-wrap/e2ee.md now state the traits mirror the separate datagram producer/consumer types instead of the track-level append_datagram/insert_datagram/recv_datagram, and lite-tail-drop-count.md limits datagram-hole accounting to lite-05/06.
  • Epic cross-links: datagram-tracks/README.md gains Related links to both m2 quests.
  • Merged origin/main: conflict resolution adopted main's required-timestamp, legacy-ID-pass-through, and scale-less rules, kept the datagram-track exemptions in time-addressing/{model,lite07}.md and subscribe-ranges/lite.md, and dropped the finished archive epic's links.

Both prior inline threads are resolved, and the first-review m2-staleness finding is now addressed.

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