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fix(hang): push-to-talk keeps a head that its next frame overtakes - #8123
Sometimes a press lost its first frame at the browser listener: about 1 in 110 presses on 60 ms Opus and 2 in 22 on 20 ms (moq-dev/moq#8009). After a release, the publisher writes a discontinuity marker, and the read's cursor waits on the next group. If the utterance's second group arrives before its head, the JS hole check in Container.Consumer.next() compares the new group's timestamp against where presentation stopped. That distance is the mute itself (5 or 60 s), far past the 300 ms max delay. So the check concluded that the missing head would be too old to play, and skipped it.
On main, the head then arrived as a late backfill that the decoder dropped. With moq-dev/moq#8071, the read drops it outright. Either way the utterance played from its second frame. Rust (moq play) was not affected: its hole check (rs/moq-mux/src/container/consumer.rs, aged) measures the newest content against the group past the hole, not against where presentation stopped.
Approach
js/hang/src/container/consumer.ts: after a declared end is read, the timestamp jump no longer proves a hole is too old, until a frame from a later group resumes the timeline. The stopped encoder's final packets that a native publisher writes after the end, in the same group, keep the pause. The hole waits out its normal budget: the max delay from the first group past it, or until the max buffer fills or the track ends. A head that arrives 2 ms behind its successor is read first, and a head that never arrives still becomes a gap after the budget. Outside a pause, the timestamp shortcut stays as it was (Consumer plays the head once a waited-out gap exceeds the budget).
Tests in both languages: after an end marker and a drain packet, a head written after its successor reads in order, and a missing head expires after exactly the budget. Once resumed, a later hole past the budget is proven without a wait. Mutation checks: removing the JS guard, or clearing it on a frame from the end's own group, fails both JS cases. Never lifting the pause fails the arrives case, and switching Rust's aged to measure from the presentation end fails the Rust test.
Quests: deletes the epic. Push-to-talk latency now records the fix instead of pointing at the epic. The m5 bandwidth-grant quest relied on "viewers hold a disabled rendition", which moq-dev/moq#7942 retired, so it now says to settle how demand survives a disable.
Impact
Public API: none.
Wire: none.
Behavior: after a declared end, the JS ordered read waits up to the max delay for the group that resumes it, instead of skipping it on the pause's timestamp jump. This matches Rust. It adds no startup wait and no wait when the head arrives first, so the 2026-10-15 no-window decision in read-backfill is unaffected.
Alternatives
Use Rust's measure in JS everywhere (newest content against the group past the hole). Rejected because the JS shortcut is deliberate for a non-sequential resubscribe that loses the group after a stale one (consumer.test.ts, the "waited-out gap" tests), and those tests would then wait a full budget.
Hold for the end's group plus one specifically. This is the same wait with an extra assumption: publishers may number groups non-sequentially.
Validation
just check origin/main: pass on c6f402e (main merged in).
bun test src/container/ in js/hang: 180 pass on c6f402e.
bun test in js/hang (544 pass) and js/watch (529 pass). The same suites also pass merged onto moq-dev/moq#8071's head b7bdbf4 (545 / 529). The only conflict there was in the quest file.
just test push-to-talk, five runs at the shipped settings (60 ms Opus, 300 ms delay, 22 presses each) on 9a0006a, plus a sixth on e494683 (22 / 22 heads in each listener, no underrun or stall). The round-1 fix only affects ends followed by drain packets, which the JS publisher never writes. All passed:
browser heads
native heads
underruns / stalls (browser, native)
unencoded / unsent / unreceived
5 runs
110 / 110
110 / 110
0 / 0, 0 / 0
0 / 0 / 0
None of those runs reordered a head. So, as a local-only page change (not committed), I also ran two runs at 20 ms Opus, the frame size where moq-dev/moq#8009 lost 2 of 22 heads. Both passed with 44 / 44 heads in each listener and no underruns. In run 2, a press's head after a 60 s mute (group 2850) arrived 1.8 ms behind group 2851 and was still decoded first. That is the case this PR fixes.
Latency, reported here rather than checked by the runner: over the five runs, playout on top of delivery had a median of 289 ms and a max of 335 ms, and 20 of 75 separated presses went over 300 ms. The overshoot is in render (median 54 ms, max 98 ms; 21 / 54 ms on 2026-11-04). The jitter buffer held at 239 / 248 ms. Press to render onset is about the same as on 2026-11-04 (~350 ms). Playout rose because measured delivery fell, from 84 to 66 ms median. On moq-dev/moq#7942, on 2026-11-05, the maintainer accepted a playout max above 300 ms and assigned the budget to the push-to-talk-latency quest. So this PR does not treat the overshoot as part of the epic.
Choices made without asking
Narrow fix in JS only, plus a Rust test. Rust already behaved correctly, so it gets a test that pins the behavior and no code change.
The epic finishes here. Its Plan said a complete set of runs finishes it. Five passing runs match the set recorded on 2026-11-04, and the 20 ms runs exercised the fixed path for real.
The epic's ✅ latency line is superseded, not re-proven. It cited the 2026-11-04 runs. The newer 2026-11-05 decision on moq-dev/moq#7942 assigns the budget to push-to-talk-latency.
The m5 bandwidth-grant quest is corrected in prose only. Its recovery plan rests on the retired hold. This PR flags that in the quest rather than redesigning it.
Builds on main, not on moq-dev/moq#8071. That PR is queued and also edits this epic's README. Whichever lands second resolves the README to deleted. The code merges cleanly, and the tests pass on both bases.
Review
mechanical fix by codex, gpt-6.1-sol, medium effort: Merged base and re·solved the quest conflict by retaining its newer floor-holding decision, which settles the PR caveat; ran just ci base and git diff --check base. (head ddfc8e2)
mechanical fix by codex, gpt-6.1-sol, medium effort: Merged base and re·solved quest/m1/push-to-talk/README.md modify/delete conflict by preserving the completed quest deletion; ran just ci base and git diff --check base pr-8123 successfully. (head eeb3ecf)
Codex gpt-6.1-sol, medium effort, via quest review --base origin/main.
Earlier session: round 1 on 9a0006a found that a native publisher's drain packets after the end cleared the pause (rs/moq-audio/src/encode/producer.rs:565). Fixed in e494683. Round 2 on e494683: no findings.
Round 1 on c6f402e (the test added for pullfrog, the quest rewrap, and a main merge): no findings.
pullfrog, untested pause clear (consumer.ts:1048): fixed in c6f402e with the resumed-hole assertion. A mutation check confirms it.
pullfrog, overlong line in push-to-talk-latency.md: rewrapped.
CodeRabbit nitpick, test the span limit while paused: declined in this comment. #paused only gates skipHole (consumer.ts:829), and the span skip never reads it.
Follow-ups
/quest-audit on the m5 bandwidth-grant quest (quest/m5/2848-follow-the-bandwidth-grant-in-moq-audio-instead-of.md): decide how a disabled Opus rendition keeps demand now that players deselect it.
After a push-to-talk release, the next utterance's second group can reach
the listener before its head. The hole proof measured the new group
against where presentation stopped, so the mute itself read as lateness
and the head was skipped. Once delivery stopped at a declared end, the
hole waits out its budget instead, as Rust's measure already does.
Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 5.5 <noreply@anthropic.com>
Five 60 ms runs of the acceptance proof kept all 110 heads in the browser
and native listeners, with no underrun or stall, and two 20 ms runs kept
all 44, one of them a head that arrived behind its successor after a
60 s mute. The latency quest now owns the playout budget, and the m5
bandwidth-grant quest no longer leans on the retired disabled-rendition
hold.
Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 5.5 <noreply@anthropic.com>
A native publisher writes the stopped encoder's final packets after the
end marker, in its group. Clearing the pause on any frame let the
timestamp shortcut skip the next utterance's head again, so only a frame
from a later group resumes it.
Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 5.5 <noreply@anthropic.com>
Findings: No actionable correctness defects found.
Direction and coverage:
Tracking the declared end's group removes the invalid inference that a pause's timestamp jump proves missing media is already late. Frames draining from that same group preserve the pause; media from a later group resumes the normal shortcut.
The ordinary hole timer, zero-delay behavior, buffer-pressure escape, and finished-track drain remain intact. Declared/bare ends go through the same emission state, while a trailing endpoint on the current media group remains a duration update.
The JS regression covers both reordered arrival and expiration, including the native publisher's end-then-drain-packet layout. The Rust regression pins its existing next-group-based age calculation without changing production Rust code.
The latency-budget work remains a separate quest; this review does not certify the reported run counts or latency measurements.
Verification: GitHub-only static inspection of the diff, surrounding JS hole/emission/timer paths, Rust hole aging, and native terminal-packet production. I did not execute tests, the push-to-talk harness, browser/native playback, or mutation checks, and did not independently reproduce the author-reported validation. This is a COMMENT, not an approval or merge-readiness certification.
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ℹ️ No correctness issues found — two minor suggestions inline.
Reviewed changes
Read the full diff at e4946839d and ran the suites and mutation checks: the JS consumer's pause-aware hole check, its new test, the Rust test, and the quest edits.
js/hang/src/container/consumer.ts — a new #paused records the group of the last declared end read (so same-group drain packets keep it); next()'s timestamp shortcut no longer proves a hole too old while it is set, and the pause lifts on the first frame read from a later group.
js/hang/src/container/consumer.holes.test.ts — a two-case test.each for a head that arrives behind its successor and one that never arrives (gap at exactly the max delay), both including the stopped encoder's drain packet after the end.
rs/moq-mux/src/container/consumer.rs — test-only: pins that Rust already waits for the head after a declared end (poll_read pending at 299 ms, then both groups in order).
Quests — deletes the push-to-talk epic and its m1 index entry, records the fix in push-to-talk-latency.md, and corrects the m5 bandwidth-grant quest's retired hold premise.
Verification: bun test src/container/ in js/hang passes (180), the full js/hang suite passes apart from the pre-existing missing @moq/libav failures, and removing the new guard fails both JS cases as the description claims. I could not compile the Rust test locally (no target directory), but it matches the existing helpers and the aged path it pins.
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The audio consumer now tracks declared ends and delays age-based missing-group skips until a later group resumes the timeline. Tests cover whether the missing group arrives within the delay budget or a gap is emitted. Quest documentation removes push-to-talk records and updates statements about the ordering defect and disabled renditions.
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js/hang/src/container/consumer.holes.test.ts: 1
275-295: Trivial · Functional Correctness · Low value
Test the buffered-span limit after an end.
Before the hole timer expires, buffer groups 3 and 4 more than delay.max apart while group 2 is missing. Assert that the consumer drops group 3 and reports a gap before group 4. This covers the span budget while the consumer is paused.
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Review comment at @js/hang/src/container/consumer.holes.test.ts around lines 275
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Extend this consumer test to buffer groups 3 and 4 while group 2 is missing,
with their timestamps more than delay.max apart and both arriving before the
hole timer expires. Assert that the consumer drops group 3 and reports a gap
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@coderabbitai Declining the nitpick to test the buffered-span limit after an end. The pause only gates the timestamp shortcut in the hole check (skipHole, js/hang/src/container/consumer.ts:829; grep -n paused finds no other read). The span age skip in #checkMaxDelay never reads #paused, so it runs the same path the existing span tests already cover. A paused variant would test unchanged code.
#!/bin/bashset -euo pipefail
echo'--- Complete span-limit implementation ---'
sed -n '500,590p' js/hang/src/container/consumer.ts
echo'--- Existing PTS-span test ---'
ast-grep outline js/hang/src/container/consumer.test.ts --items all ||true
sed -n '800,860p' js/hang/src/container/consumer.test.ts
echo'--- Other span-related tests ---'
rg -n -i -C 2 'span|duration skip|max delay' js/hang/src/container/consumer.test.ts | head -180
Length of output: 12715
@kixelated Agreed. #paused gates the hole check’s timestamp shortcut, but #checkMaxDelay does not read it. The existing PTS-span test covers the span-limit path at zero delay.
No new actionable findings since e494683, accounting for the merge from main. The production consumer and Rust regression are unchanged; the latency quest only reflows text.
Direction: the added assertion in js/hang/src/container/consumer.holes.test.ts:289–295 usefully checks that resuming clears the pause guard. After groups 2 and 3 are read, group 5 produces the expected 940 ms gap and frame without advancing the manual clock, so a guard that stays paused would fail this assertion rather than pass via the elapsed-time escape.
Verification: GitHub-only static comparison against both bases, reading the complete hole-test file and checking the consumer's hole, emission, and pause-reset paths. I did not execute tests, mutation checks, quest context, or browser/native playback; prior reported run counts and latency remain unverified. COMMENT only, not approval.
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✅ No new issues found.
Reviewed changes
Re-reviewed the delta since the prior pullfrog review at e4946839d: the resumed-hole assertion added in c6f402e94, plus a main merge and a quest reflow. The production consumer and the Rust test are unchanged.
Resumed-hole assertion — after the reordered head is read, the arrives case now writes group 5 at 61 s (skipping group 4) and asserts the 940 ms gap and frame arrive with no clock advance, pinning that reading a later group clears #paused.
Latency quest rewrap — the added paragraph and the measurement-limits reference below it now wrap with their neighbours and point at this PR instead of the deleted epic.
Verification: bun test src/container/consumer.holes.test.ts passes 8/8, and deleting the #paused clear line at consumer.ts:1048 fails the new assertion (empty results, no timestamp shortcut).
quest land watch: the merge queue removed this pull request at c6f402e because it conflicts with main (merge_conflict).
The land fixer works on it in the background, and the watcher re-enqueues it at the back of the queue once it is fixed or judged flaky, or hands it back here with what it needs.
quest land watch: armed auto-merge on this pull request at eeb3ecf, so it joins the back of the merge queue once its required checks pass, with the land fixer's fix (codex, gpt-6.1-sol, medium effort): Merged base and re·solved quest/m1/push-to-talk/README.md modify/delete conflict by preserving the completed quest deletion; ran just ci base and git diff --check base pr-8123 successfully..
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✅ No new issues found.
Reviewed changes
Re-reviewed the delta since the prior pullfrog review at c6f402e94: a merge of main and the resulting quest conflict resolution.
Base merge brings #8071 under the fix — main now carries 9bf34b20d ("ordered reads drop groups below the cursor and start at the publisher's resolved start"), which rewrote js/hang/src/container/consumer.ts and rs/moq-mux/src/container/consumer.rs. The merge kept main's rewrite and reapplied the 10-line #paused patch on top; the branch diff against main is exactly the seven intended files, so none of main's changes were reverted.
Deleted-epic conflict resolved — quest/m1/push-to-talk/README.md stays deleted while main's newer m1 index entries (audio-jitter-target, ts-reliability, removal of read-backfill) are retained, and no link to the deleted epic remains anywhere in the tree.
Verification on the merged head: bun test src/container/ in js/hang passes (181), the holes file is 8/8, and the full js/hang suite is 545 tests with only the two pre-existing missing-@moq/libav failures. Removing the #paused === undefined guard still fails both new cases, so the pause remains load-bearing under #8071's read path rather than being subsumed by it. The Rust test now compiles and passes against #8071's rewritten consumer (cargo test -p moq-mux --lib container::consumer::tests::the_head_after_a_declared_end_is_waited_for).
quest land watch: the merge queue removed this pull request at eeb3ecf because it conflicts with main (merge_conflict).
The land fixer works on it in the background, and the watcher re-enqueues it at the back of the queue once it is fixed or judged flaky, or hands it back here with what it needs.
quest land watch: armed auto-merge on this pull request at ddfc8e2, so it joins the back of the merge queue once its required checks pass, with the land fixer's fix (codex, gpt-6.1-sol, medium effort): Merged base and re·solved the quest conflict by retaining its newer floor-holding decision, which settles the PR caveat; ran just ci base and git diff --check base..
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Finishes quest/m1/push-to-talk/README.md, the push-to-talk epic. Its last child, moq-dev/moq#8055, has merged.
Problem
Sometimes a press lost its first frame at the browser listener: about 1 in 110 presses on 60 ms Opus and 2 in 22 on 20 ms (moq-dev/moq#8009). After a release, the publisher writes a discontinuity marker, and the read's cursor waits on the next group. If the utterance's second group arrives before its head, the JS hole check in
Container.Consumer.next()compares the new group's timestamp against where presentation stopped. That distance is the mute itself (5 or 60 s), far past the 300 ms max delay. So the check concluded that the missing head would be too old to play, and skipped it.On main, the head then arrived as a late backfill that the decoder dropped. With moq-dev/moq#8071, the read drops it outright. Either way the utterance played from its second frame. Rust (
moq play) was not affected: its hole check (rs/moq-mux/src/container/consumer.rs,aged) measures the newest content against the group past the hole, not against where presentation stopped.Approach
js/hang/src/container/consumer.ts: after a declared end is read, the timestamp jump no longer proves a hole is too old, until a frame from a later group resumes the timeline. The stopped encoder's final packets that a native publisher writes after the end, in the same group, keep the pause. The hole waits out its normal budget: the max delay from the first group past it, or until the max buffer fills or the track ends. A head that arrives 2 ms behind its successor is read first, and a head that never arrives still becomes a gap after the budget. Outside a pause, the timestamp shortcut stays as it was (Consumer plays the head once a waited-out gap exceeds the budget).arrivescase, and switching Rust'sagedto measure from the presentation end fails the Rust test.Impact
Alternatives
consumer.test.ts, the "waited-out gap" tests), and those tests would then wait a full budget.Validation
just check origin/main: pass on c6f402e (main merged in).bun test src/container/injs/hang: 180 pass on c6f402e.bun testinjs/hang(544 pass) andjs/watch(529 pass). The same suites also pass merged onto moq-dev/moq#8071's head b7bdbf4 (545 / 529). The only conflict there was in the quest file.just test push-to-talk, five runs at the shipped settings (60 ms Opus, 300 ms delay, 22 presses each) on 9a0006a, plus a sixth on e494683 (22 / 22 heads in each listener, no underrun or stall). The round-1 fix only affects ends followed by drain packets, which the JS publisher never writes. All passed:None of those runs reordered a head. So, as a local-only page change (not committed), I also ran two runs at 20 ms Opus, the frame size where moq-dev/moq#8009 lost 2 of 22 heads. Both passed with 44 / 44 heads in each listener and no underruns. In run 2, a press's head after a 60 s mute (group 2850) arrived 1.8 ms behind group 2851 and was still decoded first. That is the case this PR fixes.
render(median 54 ms, max 98 ms; 21 / 54 ms on 2026-11-04). The jitter buffer held at 239 / 248 ms. Press to render onset is about the same as on 2026-11-04 (~350 ms). Playout rose because measured delivery fell, from 84 to 66 ms median. On moq-dev/moq#7942, on 2026-11-05, the maintainer accepted a playout max above 300 ms and assigned the budget to the push-to-talk-latency quest. So this PR does not treat the overshoot as part of the epic.Choices made without asking
Review
mechanical fix by codex, gpt-6.1-sol, medium effort:
Merged base and re·solved the quest conflict by retaining its newer floor-holding decision, which settles the PR caveat; ran just ci base and git diff --check base.(head ddfc8e2)mechanical fix by codex, gpt-6.1-sol, medium effort:
Merged base and re·solved quest/m1/push-to-talk/README.md modify/delete conflict by preserving the completed quest deletion; ran just ci base and git diff --check base pr-8123 successfully.(head eeb3ecf)Codex
gpt-6.1-sol, medium effort, viaquest review --base origin/main.rs/moq-audio/src/encode/producer.rs:565). Fixed in e494683. Round 2 on e494683: no findings.Online reviews on e494683:
consumer.ts:1048): fixed in c6f402e with the resumed-hole assertion. A mutation check confirms it.push-to-talk-latency.md: rewrapped.#pausedonly gatesskipHole(consumer.ts:829), and the span skip never reads it.Follow-ups
/quest-auditon the m5 bandwidth-grant quest (quest/m5/2848-follow-the-bandwidth-grant-in-moq-audio-instead-of.md): decide how a disabled Opus rendition keeps demand now that players deselect it.(Written by Claude Opus 5.5)
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