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Make Notification work out-of-the-box for F-droid version without Gplay services #6458
Description
Is your feature request related to a problem? Please describe.
With the f-droid version, notification are not working, unless you install some third party app on your phone, and maybe on your nextcloud server. (see official doc: https://github.com/nextcloud/talk-android/blob/master/docs/unifiedPush.md by @mahibi , and related isssue on this repo: #6372).
Even though i follow all steps of the official doc, it's still not working.
Describe the solution you'd like
I would like to have the notification working directly after installing the f-droid version (just as the google play version). No third party app required on the phone or on the server.
Describe alternatives you've considered
I don't know how to do it, but it would be a great feature :)
Additional context
This features concern only the f-droid version
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[-]Make Notification works out-of-the-box for F-droid version[/-][+]Make Notification work out-of-the-box for F-droid version[/+]mahibi commentedon Aug 6, 2026
solved with #5884 unless you install the f-droid version on an original android OS, but it's not yet released. Will come with the next major release at latest
CypLef commentedon Aug 6, 2026
Sorry, i forgot to precise: i use /e/Os (fork of LineageOs), so i don't have google play services at all.
Is it possible to make this features work for all user without google play services?
[-]Make Notification work out-of-the-box for F-droid version[/-][+]Make Notification work out-of-the-box for F-droid version without Gplay services[/+]mahibi commentedon Aug 10, 2026
i guess for /e/Os, unifiedPush will be necessary.
If it's still not working, please share the diagnosis report from the android talk app (Settings-advanced-diagnosis).
CypLef commentedon Aug 10, 2026
OK,
for now, i installed NextPush (Uniefied Push for Nextcloud) on my phone.
But my Talk app doesn't seems to know how to use NextPush or Sunup:
I don't have the setting "enable Unified Push" on my Talk app, even though Talk recognize NextPush.
Server side: everything seems fine
Here's the diag:
Meta information
Generation of system report
10 août 2026 10:31:20
Phone
Device
Fairphone FP4
Android version
35
Google Play services
Google Play services are not available.
UnifiedPush services
2 services available
App
App name
Nextcloud Talk
App version
v24.0.2
Build flavor
generic
Offer UnifiedPush
No
Use UnifiedPush
No
Registered users
6
Current account
Server
https://cloud.mydomain.tld
User
cyp
User status enabled?
Yes
Server notification app installed?
Yes
Server supports webpush?
Yes
Server version
34.0.2
Server Talk version
24.0.3
Signaling Mode
External
mahibi commentedon Aug 10, 2026
Hm maybe there is something wrong when 2 UnifiedPush services are available..
Was there ever any dialog to choose a UP service?
Does it work when you only have Sunup installed as UnifiedPush distributor?
CypLef commentedon Aug 10, 2026
i found out that there is already a unified Push app installed by default on /e/Os: https://e.foundation/fr/leaving-apple-e-os-now-supports-unifiedpush-find-your-perfect-pro-privacy-gift-with-murena/
it is called: ntfy
But i can't configure Talk to use it...
i had nom dialog asking to choose an up service
mahibi commentedon Aug 11, 2026
just to double check: you uninstalled all other Unified Push distributor apps but Talk Android does not offer to enable Unified Push in the settings?
CypLef commentedon Aug 11, 2026
With default /e/Os, the app ntfy is already installed.
with this config (ntfy only) Talk show no setting to enable Unified Push
if i install another Unified Push app (Sunup, NextPush), i have then 2 or 3 Unified Push app (because i didn't want to uninstall Ntfy which is part of default /e/Os):
And i have no GUI for ntfy, i can juste disable it or remove some autorisation.
i try to "force stop" ntfy and install sunup: nothing change, Talk still see 2 Unified Push system.
CypLef commentedon Aug 11, 2026
Here is what i tried, and it change nothing:
mahibi commentedon Aug 12, 2026
ok thanks for the info.
I currently don't have a /e/Os device available to test this.
Maybe there is a chance @p1gp1g has or has some idea whats wrong?
p1gp1g commentedon Aug 13, 2026
/e/OS has microg by default (a reimplementation of the Play Services), so you can use FCM; and it comes with a UnifiedPush distributor by default too, so you can use UnifiedPush without installing any additional app (as you found out later).
I'm pretty sure the issue is regarding web push server setting that is disabled by default: on your Nextcloud web app, with an admin account: Administration settings > Notifications > Toggle on Web Push switches
CypLef commentedon Aug 13, 2026
It is already on:
And The Talk app recognize that everyting is OK on server side:
Meta information
Generation of system report
13 août 2026 14:02:59
Phone
Device
Fairphone FP4
Android version
35
Google Play services
Google Play services are not available.
UnifiedPush services
2 services available
App
App name
Nextcloud Talk
App version
v24.0.2
Build flavor
generic
Offer UnifiedPush
No
Use UnifiedPush
No
Registered users
6
Current account
Server
https://cloud.mydomain.tld
User
cyp
User status enabled?
Yes
Server notification app installed?
Yes
Server supports webpush?
Yes
Server version
34.0.2
Server Talk version
24.0.3
Signaling Mode
External
p1gp1g commentedon Aug 13, 2026
You have 6 registered users:
Registered users: 6, all of them must support web pushCypLef commentedon Aug 13, 2026
that was the problem, thanks
kpapd commentedon Aug 21, 2026
I have the same problem too and searching in forums I see others struggling too.
I have a phone running GrapheneOS without Google Play Services and my server runs Nextcloud-aio in docker.
My server doesn't have a Web Push checkbox in Settings -> Notifications
I've installed UnifiedPush through the Apps and also installed NextPush in the phone which doesn't see Talk application registered and the latter doesn't have a UnifiedPush Option. Below is the info of Talk App. I've also tried 25.0.0 RC2 to no avail.
Phone
Device
Google Pixel 6a
Android version
37
Google Play services
Google Play services are not available.
UnifiedPush services
1 service available
App
App name
Nextcloud Talk
App version
v24.0.2
Build flavor
generic
Offer UnifiedPush
No
Use UnifiedPush
No
Registered users
1
Current account
Server
https://myDDNSurl
User
myName
User status enabled?
Yes
Server notification app installed?
Yes
Server supports webpush?
No
Server version
34.0.2
Server Talk version
24.0.4
Signaling Mode
External
p1gp1g commentedon Aug 21, 2026
I think you're checking the user's settings on not the admin settings. Check https://yourdomain.tld/index.php/settings/admin/notifications - it won't work until you enable web push
kpapd commentedon Aug 21, 2026
That was it! There is a Notifications field in Settings -> Personal section but there's another one in Administration section.
Thanks for the quick respond. The registration was done and it seems to be working. Thanks for all the good work.
p1gp1g commentedon Aug 21, 2026
Maybe something may be shown to the user if the server is 34+ and web push is disabled, to let the user know they need to contact the admins?