[kixelated]

Plans Native backpressure in the m1 audio jitter target epic. Native playback should decode audio only when the ring has room and keep the rest of the target delay encoded, as the browser's Backpressure already does. That replaces the decoded-PCM hold queue that moq-dev/moq#8362 adds to moq play.

Decisions

Settled in /quest-complete on 2026-11-09 by the maintainer. The maintainer's request, made while accepting #8362's approach: "quest-plan backpressure like JS does. So we don't decode audio until there's space in the ring buffer".

• Milestone: ✅ m1, under audio-jitter-target (rejected: m2, m3). The quest moves to m2 if the gate needs a public API change.

Iteration (2026-11-09)

Answers the four automated findings on 15cd12a373, all accepted:

• The Goal now states the browser's rule (a live backlog past the target still reaches the ring) instead of a strict room-only gate.
• The gate waits before decoding, never before reading, so Consumer::read keeps stamping arrivals for the jitter estimate.
• The gate reads the shared playout delay, not Consumer::delay(), which is the jitter target alone.

Also, now that moq-dev/moq#8389 has merged:

• stretch.md lists this quest under Required in place of its Waiting item, which was that PR's first follow-up.
• Three statements pullfrog flagged on quest: plan the audio stretch model and its grading #8389 after it was queued are corrected in stretch.md, native-av-lag.md, and grading.md: the root cause of fix(audio): native playback stretches where audio arrives, and reports A/V lag #8361's AAC step underruns (a stale clock, not the speed-up admission), the scope of grading's "no zero gate" goal (push-to-talk's gate goes with its own quest), and what an exact replay row means for a p95 that rises.

No new decisions. Where the gate's state lives (inside moq_audio::decode::Consumer or play_audio) stays the implementer's call under the existing rule: inside the consumer if additive, m2 if it needs a breaking change.

Impact

Quests only. Wire: none.

Models

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Review

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• Reviewer: Codex, gpt-6.1-sol, medium effort
• Session: 01a1c2c1-f362-7c22-99cb-83c1a9639eae, round 1
• Head: fd940ae
• Base: origin/main at ecfa75a
• Score: 10/10, The scoped diff updates quest plans without changing runtime behavior, and its dependency and scope clarifications are consistent with the referenced implementations.
• Findings: none

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Automated review by review (OpenAI)

Reviewed commit: 15cd12a

No actionable defects found in this planning-only change. The direction is sound: keep the extra delay encoded and gate decoding from playback state rather than grow the decoded-PCM queue. The plan correctly distinguishes the current native path from the intended behavior, identifies the sink-owned playhead input, and carries over the browser's stalled-refill rule.

Verification: read both changed documents and checked the referenced browser Backpressure, native Consumer::read, play_audio, Sink::buffered, and #8362 context through GitHub. No local commands or playback tests were run; the returned Check and Queue runs for this head were skipped. This review validates the plan, not the future implementation.

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Walkthrough

The README and stretch plan list Native backpressure as required work. A new quest document describes a proposed native decode gate. Other changes revise the audio-buffer model, describe clock-step underruns, and clarify which grading results require a fix or re-measurement.

Merge Risk: Low · up to fd940

This change only edits planning documents, so there is no runtime impact. Two wording issues remain. The grading guidance could flag an improvement in lag as a regression, and the backpressure goal could still be read as a strict room-only gate. Both are quick documentation clarifications and should not block merge.

Pre-merge checks: 5

Check name	Status	Explanation
Title check		The title clearly summarizes the plan to add native audio decode backpressure.
Description check		The description explains the native backpressure plan and related updates to the audio-jitter-target quest documents.
Docstring Coverage		No eligible functions found in the changed files. Skipping docstring coverage check. Docstring coverage is scoped to functions touched by this diff with cyclomatic complexity of at least 2. Documentat…
Linked Issues check		Check skipped because no linked issues were found for this pull request.
Out of Scope Changes check		Check skipped because no linked issues were found for this pull request.

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Review comments at @quest/m1/audio-jitter-target/native-backpressure.md:
- Around line 25-26: Preserve packet-arrival timing separately from decode
timing in the encoded-frame gate flow, so gate delay does not skew jitter
estimates. Update the Consumer::read arrival observation path to use timing
captured when each packet arrives rather than recording now() when the gated
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- Line 6: Clarify the quest’s required backpressure behavior by stating whether
live frames may be decoded when the ring is at its floor if the encoded hold is
covered. Explicitly specify what happens when the encoded hold is zero, so the
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Minor · Functional Correctness · Quick win

Reconcile the room-only rule with browser backpressure.

The browser releases live frames when the encoded hold is covered, even if the ring is at its floor. When the hold is zero, it releases every live frame. A strict room-only gate would instead retain a burst and delay catch-up. State which behavior this quest requires. (raw.githubusercontent.com)

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Clarify the quest’s required backpressure behavior by stating whether live
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Fixed in fd940ae: the Goal now states the browser's rule instead of a strict room-only gate. A frame is decoded once the playhead is within the ring's floor of it and, live, once the media queued behind it covers the encoded hold, so a backlog past the target still reaches the ring.

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#!/bin/bash
set -u
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printf '%s\n' '=== Quest document ==='
if test -f quest/m1/audio-jitter-target/native-backpressure.md; then
  nl -ba quest/m1/audio-jitter-target/native-backpressure.md | sed -n '1,160p'
else
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fi
printf '%s\n' '=== Referenced commit ==='
git show --format=fuller --stat fd940aed65 -- quest/m1/audio-jitter-target/native-backpressure.md 2>&1 || true
git show --format= --no-ext-diff fd940aed65 -- quest/m1/audio-jitter-target/native-backpressure.md 2>&1 || true
printf '%s\n' '=== Browser backpressure outline ==='
if test -f js/watch/src/audio/buffer.ts; then
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@kixelated Thanks for updating the Goal. One point remains ambiguous: “and, live” on Line 7 could mean both conditions are required.

Backpressure releases a playing live frame when either condition is met. When the encoded hold is zero, it releases every live frame. Could you state both points explicitly?

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Learnings used

Learnt from: kixelated
Repo: moq-dev/moq PR: 5394
File: quest/m0/audio-quality-budgets.md:5-8
Timestamp: 2026-10-13T16:18:52.687Z
Learning: In moq-dev/moq quest Markdown documents, use the Goal section to state the outcome the quest establishes, not its current status; record the current state in the Plan section. A present-tense outcome in Goal does not conflict with current failures described in Plan.

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Important

The plan reads accurately against the browser's Backpressure and #8362's queue, but two of the gate's inputs are missing: gating Consumer::read would make the jitter estimator measure its own cadence, and the gate needs the shared playout delay, not just the playhead, to replace #8362's decoded-PCM hold. A third note settles the milestone rule this doc applies to itself.

Reviewed changes

• New quest plan — native-backpressure.md plans decoding native audio only when the sink ring has room below its floor, keeping the rest of the target encoded as js/watch's Backpressure does, and replacing #8362's PCM hold queue.
• Epic index — one Required line for the new quest in quest/m1/audio-jitter-target/README.md.

ℹ️ The milestone condition reads as breaking-only

Line 35 moves the quest to m2 "if it needs a public API change", while line 37 calls the API additive, and quest/README.md puts additive work in m1 with m2 reserved for breaking changes. Passing the playhead in is itself a new public method, so state "breaking public API change" or record how the gate stays off the public API.

Technical details

# Reconcile the milestone condition

## Affected sites
- `quest/m1/audio-jitter-target/native-backpressure.md:35` — "if it needs a public API change, it moves to m2".
- `quest/m1/audio-jitter-target/native-backpressure.md:37` — "Public API: additive if the gate stays inside `moq_audio::decode::Consumer`".
- `quest/README.md:6-12` — m1 is additive work; m2 is the next breaking release.

## Required outcome
- The milestone condition names a breaking change, or the plan keeps the gate out of public API entirely.

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Automated review by review (OpenAI)

Reviewed commit: fd940ae

No additional actionable findings in the changes since my previous review, accounting for the merge from main. The revised direction is sound: preserve arrival observations independently of decode pacing, supply the shared playout delay, and make native backpressure a prerequisite of the stretch model. The stale-clock explanation and grading-scope corrections match the referenced evidence.

The remaining live-admission wording clarification at quest/m1/audio-jitter-target/native-backpressure.md:6-8 is already tracked in the existing discussion: the two live admission paths are alternatives, with zero encoded hold admitting every live frame. No duplicate inline finding added.

Verification: GitHub-only review of the five changed documents and relevant source/review context. No local commands, tests, or audio measurements run. Check was still in progress when inspected; this is a plan review, not verification of an implemented gate.

[pullfrog]

✅ No new issues found.

Reviewed changes

Since the prior pullfrog review (15cd12a), the branch answered both gate findings and corrected the plan statements that had the wrong root cause or scope:

• Gate ordering and inputs — native-backpressure.md now specifies that the gate waits before decoding, never before reading, so Consumer::read keeps stamping arrivals, and names both inputs play_audio must pass in: the playhead derived from Sink::buffered(), and the shared playout delay rather than Consumer::delay().
• Browser rule restated in the Goal — decoding now follows Backpressure including live hold coverage, so a backlog past the target still reaches the ring to be caught up.
• #8361 root cause corrected — stretch.md and native-av-lag.md now attribute the AAC step underruns to a shared clock that goes stale after a path-delay step, with main's slow-down hiding it; the thin-buffer/speed-up framing is gone.
• Grading scope corrected — grading.md scopes the no-zero-gate rule to harness rows, hands push-to-talk's own zero gate in ptt-analyze.ts to its quest, and states which re-measured moves count as regressions versus re-measured budgets.
• Dependency wired — stretch.md lists native backpressure under Required instead of a Waiting item, and native-backpressure.md points its Related link at the current stretch quest.

I re-read the changed docs against js/watch/src/audio/buffer.ts, latency.ts, sync.ts, rs/moq-audio's stretch.rs and decode/consumer.rs, rs/moq-cli/src/play/media.rs, ptt-analyze.ts, and the step profile in test/audio-quality/README.md; the code references, the 5 → 60 ms step, and the out.delay = max-of-subscribed-targets claim all hold, and every quest link the changed files add resolves.

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Supported by static analysis

Script executed:

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rg -n 'p50' test/audio-quality/budgets.json | head -40
rg -n 'p50|zero|resting' quest/m1/audio-jitter-target/stretch.md | head -40

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Do not treat every p50 rise as a regression.

The replay p50 values are negative. A rise toward zero can move audio closer to the model’s shared-clock resting point. Judge re-measured changes against clock alignment, not only the previous value.

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Review comment at @quest/m1/audio-jitter-target/grading.md at line 63:
Update the steady-state p50 guidance in the grading criteria so a rise is not
automatically classified as a regression. Since replay p50 values are negative,
assess re-measured changes against audio’s alignment with the model’s
shared-clock resting point; a rise toward zero may indicate improved alignment
rather than a regression.

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