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1 change: 1 addition & 0 deletions quest/m1/audio-jitter-target/README.md
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- [Native A/V lag](/quest/m1/audio-jitter-target/native-av-lag.md) - `moq play --metrics` reports how far audio trails its presentation clock, so native rows grade `av_lag_ms`
- [Native rendition delay](/quest/m1/audio-jitter-target/native-rendition-delay.md) - `moq play` holds each subscribed rendition's catalog `delay` plus its target, as the browser does
- [Chromium Opus stalled share](/quest/m1/audio-jitter-target/opus-stalled-share.md) - the Chromium Opus browser rows' stalled-share ceiling is measured with the stretch, and passes
- [Native backpressure](/quest/m1/audio-jitter-target/native-backpressure.md) - native playback decodes audio only when the ring has room, holding the rest of the target encoded as the browser does

## Closes

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regression.
- Dropped audio is the player's own count (`trimmed_ms`, `player_skips`).
Speeding up is not a skip.
- No gate is fixed at zero underruns or zero stalls.
- No row's budget is fixed at zero underruns or zero stalls. Push-to-talk's
own zero gate, in `ptt-analyze.ts`, goes with
[Push-to-talk latency](/quest/m1/push-to-talk-latency.md), not here.
- A congestion row, where the path stalls for longer than the target and
then delivers the backlog, reports the audio dropped and how long audio
takes to return to the clock.
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Recommendations:

- Replay rows stay exact. Rewrite the note to say which direction is a
regression: a steady-state p50 lag that rises, or audio the player
trimmed. A p95 lag that rises through a stall, or an underrun count that
moves, is not one by itself.
- Replay rows stay exact, so any change to one still fails until it is
re-measured. Rewrite the note to say which re-measured moves are
regressions to fix rather than budget: a steady-state p50 lag that rises,

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Do not treat every p50 rise as a regression.

The replay p50 values are negative. A rise toward zero can move audio closer to the model’s shared-clock resting point. Judge re-measured changes against clock alignment, not only the previous value.

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Review comment at @quest/m1/audio-jitter-target/grading.md at line 63:
Update the steady-state p50 guidance in the grading criteria so a rise is not
automatically classified as a regression. Since replay p50 values are negative,
assess re-measured changes against audio’s alignment with the model’s
shared-clock resting point; a rise toward zero may indicate improved alignment
rather than a regression.

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or audio the player trimmed. A p95 lag that rises through a stall, or an
underrun count that moves, is re-measured in.
- Add the congestion case twice: a shaper profile that queues until packets
drop, per the repository's impairment rule, and a replay trace where media
trickles in late after a stall, which the audit of #8360 asked for.
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Decided 2026-11-09 (maintainer, /quest-complete on
[moq-dev/moq#8361](https://github.com/moq-dev/moq/pull/8361)): ✅ keep the
PR's metrics half and revert its playback changes (rejected: land its stretch
keyed to the lag at arrival). That stretch sped up into a thin buffer, taking
AAC `step` from 0 to 614 underruns a minute, and removed native's only
slow-down. It was built on the rule the
keyed to the lag at arrival). That stretch held audio on a clock that goes
stale after a path-delay step, taking AAC `step` from 0 to 614 underruns a
minute, where `main`'s slow-down had hidden the stale clock by settling
behind it. It was built on the rule the
[epic](/quest/m1/audio-jitter-target/README.md) replaced the same day, so the
PR's recorded decisions "accept AAC step underruns" and "p50 within one pitch
period" go with it.
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# [M] Native playback decodes audio only when the ring has room

## Goal

Native playback (`moq_audio::decode::Consumer` feeding `moq play`'s sink)
decodes an audio frame when the browser's `Backpressure` would: while playing,
once the playhead is within the ring's floor of it, and, live, once the media
queued behind it covers the part of the target held encoded, so a backlog past
the target still reaches the ring to be caught up. The rest of the target
delay stays encoded upstream, so native memory follows the bytes actually
received and the ring never grows with the delay. Once this lands, Rust splits
the target between decoded PCM and encoded media the way JS does, and
`moq play` holds no decoded PCM outside the ring.

## Plan

Planned 2026-11-09 (maintainer, /quest-complete follow-up of
[moq-dev/moq#8362](https://github.com/moq-dev/moq/pull/8362): "quest-plan
backpressure like JS does. So we don't decode audio until there's space in
the ring buffer"). ✅ m1, in this epic (rejected: m2, m3).

The browser already works this way: `Backpressure` in
`js/watch/src/audio/buffer.ts` decides when the decode loop may decode a frame,
holding the ring at its floor of PCM and the hold encoded in the container
consumer. Native decodes promptly instead: `Consumer::read` decodes each packet
as it is read, and the PCM waits in `play_audio`'s queue in
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`rs/moq-cli/src/play/media.rs`. #8362 keeps a delay past the ring's budget in
sync by parking that PCM there until it is due. This quest replaces that queue
with the gate, so the hold stays encoded.
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Mirror the browser's rules, including the stalled refill that starts playback
with the whole target ahead of the playhead, rather than inventing new ones.
Share names and tests with the JS side where the two can match.

The gate waits before decoding, never before reading. `Consumer::read` stamps
each packet's arrival for the jitter estimate (`target.observe` in
`rs/moq-audio/src/decode/consumer.rs`), and `Consumer::delay()` documents that
reads paced to the speaker make the estimate measure the pacing. Keep reading
and observing encoded packets as they arrive and hold them encoded, as
`js/watch` reads a frame and only then awaits `ring.wait()`.

The gate has two inputs, and `play_audio` owns both, so the consumer needs
them passed in:

- The playhead the JS worklet reports. Native can derive it from
`Sink::buffered()` (`rs/moq-audio/src/playback/sink.rs`) and the last
write's timestamp.
- The shared playout delay: the catalog `delay` plus the target, the largest
among the subscribed renditions, which the browser passes as
`sync.out.delay` and `play_audio` already holds the sink to through
`presentation.due`. `Consumer::delay()` is this track's jitter target alone;
a gate on it would decode at a depth the sink has already outrun and could
not replace #8362's hold.

Keep the gate inside moq-audio's consumer if that stays additive; if it needs
a public API change, it moves to m2.

Public API: additive if the gate stays inside `moq_audio::decode::Consumer`.
Wire: none.

## Related

- [Stretch model](/quest/m1/audio-jitter-target/stretch.md) - requires this gate, then changes the stalled refill mirrored here to a small cushion in both players
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both are worth taking.
- Order: ✅ after native backpressure (rejected: this first; one quest for
both). The level this rule reads is everything received ahead of the
playhead, decoded or still encoded, and the backlog while audio trails
sits encoded upstream in the browser. One mirrored rule needs both players
to split the buffer the same way.
playhead, decoded or still encoded. The browser keeps the part of the
target above its ring's floor encoded, and a buffered player its whole
lookahead, while native decodes everything at once. One mirrored rule needs
both players to split the buffer the same way.
- Clock step: ✅ deferred (rejected: plan it now; drop it). The shared
clock's reference only moves earlier, so after a lasting path-delay step
audio would settle behind a stale clock. Report what the `step` rows' lag
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expands, fast-accelerates at 20 ms of excess, stays silent after an
underrun until the whole target refills, parks on a target rise, and turns
the stretch off in buffered mode.
- [moq-dev/moq#8361](https://github.com/moq-dev/moq/pull/8361) sped up into a
thin buffer and took AAC `step` from 0 to 614 underruns a minute. A
speed-up is admitted only while the buffer stays above the target by the
lag it removes.
- [moq-dev/moq#8361](https://github.com/moq-dev/moq/pull/8361) held native
audio on the clock and took AAC `step` from 0 to 614 underruns a minute.
Its own analysis: the clock's reference never moves later, so after the 5
to 60 ms step the clock-aligned depth sits about 55 ms short of the
estimator's target, less than AAC's 160 ms PES spacing, and `main` had
hidden that by settling a burst behind. It already admitted a speed-up only
inside the excess, so that rule alone prevents nothing here. Under this
model the slow-down lets audio settle behind the stale clock rather than
underrun, which is the lag the deferred clock decision is about.

Recommendations:

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Public API: none expected. Wire: none.

## Waiting

- moq-dev/moq: [moq-dev/moq#8380](https://github.com/moq-dev/moq/pull/8380)
merges, planning native backpressure
(`/quest/m1/audio-jitter-target/native-backpressure.md`). Then list that
quest under Required and delete this item. It asks native to mirror the
browser's stalled refill to the full target; this quest then changes the
refill in both.

## Required

- [The audio harness grades the stretch model](/quest/m1/audio-jitter-target/grading.md) - the gates that pushed toward zero underruns and zero lag are gone before this is measured against them
- [Native backpressure](/quest/m1/audio-jitter-target/native-backpressure.md) - native holds its ring at a floor and the rest of the target encoded, as the browser does, so one rule reads the same buffer in both

## Closes

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